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Post by Tigertecz on May 3, 2009 18:13:51 GMT -5
Dont worry, Arsenal will win the whole thing STFU
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Post by ashes on May 4, 2009 12:10:38 GMT -5
Do you even know how many times I editted it?
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Post by martinez on May 4, 2009 12:34:01 GMT -5
Do you even think I care?
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Post by martinez on May 4, 2009 15:03:08 GMT -5
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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Post by cllaatsch on May 4, 2009 16:55:25 GMT -5
Martinez...You seem to know an awful lot about Barcelona and their high pressure defense...however you are forget that while their defense starts in front with Eto'o, Messi, Henry, Yaya, Abidal, Xavi, Iniesta, etc. You fail to realize that it ends in the back with Valdes, Puyol, Marquez, etc. While the Marquez injury will help their chances due to his poor performances as of late...losing Puyol as well will leave the defending in front of Valdes to Pique and who? Now even someone like you can see that Gerard Pique and _______ cannot defend the likes of Didier Drogba, Frank Lampard, Nic Anelka, Michael Ballack, and co. I do not think that Barcelona will be held scoreless again...however I do see John Terry and co. holding Barcelona in check just enough to see Chelsea through. While I do enjoy disputing futbol and speaking about footy, I do not enjoy discussing it with idiots who sit there and say things such as "do you even watch football." I give Barcelona two goals and Chelsea three. So 3-2 on aggregate. Either way it should be much more quality than Manchester United and Arsenal tomorrow.
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Post by martinez on May 4, 2009 21:13:22 GMT -5
Martinez...You seem to know an awful lot about Barcelona and their high pressure defense...however you are forget that while their defense starts in front with Eto'o, Messi, Henry, Yaya, Abidal, Xavi, Iniesta, etc. You fail to realize that it ends in the back with Valdes, Puyol, Marquez, etc. While the Marquez injury will help their chances due to his poor performances as of late...losing Puyol as well will leave the defending in front of Valdes to Pique and who? Now even someone like you can see that Gerard Pique and _______ cannot defend the likes of Didier Drogba, Frank Lampard, Nic Anelka, Michael Ballack, and co. I do not think that Barcelona will be held scoreless again...however I do see John Terry and co. holding Barcelona in check just enough to see Chelsea through. While I do enjoy disputing futbol and speaking about footy, I do not enjoy discussing it with idiots who sit there and say things such as "do you even watch football." I give Barcelona two goals and Chelsea three. So 3-2 on aggregate. Either way it should be much more quality than Manchester United and Arsenal tomorrow. Hold on now... you are now changing your argument that they do have a good defense, but with Marquez and Puyol being out they aren't as good defensively. Absolutely, that's a no brainer. Puyol is arguably among the top defenders in the world, if not, the best at his position, but as I stated earlier they have played without Puyol and Marquez throughout the season, yet they've only allowed more than 2 goals two times all season. One time was in Champions League having already advanced they lost 3-2 to Donetsk (with all second-team players) and one of the most incredible matches I have seen all-time a 4-3 lost to Atletico Madrid in La Liga. Like I also stated, they are the best offensive and defensive team in all of Europe. Did you see how they man-handled Bayern Munich? Now you can argue all you want that Bayern Munich isn't at the level of a Chelsea or Man United, but when you have Ribery, Luca Toni, Ze Roberto, Van Bommel, Lahm, Klose, etc etc and you get destroyed 4-0 like that speaks incredibly of the team. They also man-handled an injured and messy situation that is Real Madrid, but Real Madrid had been unbeaten in La Liga since Christmas break until that last match and they beat them 6-2 at the Bernabeu of all places! I hate Barcelona with a passion, so I speak with totally unbias but to even fathom a 3-2 win in favor of Chelsea is insane. It'll be a close match, and if it ends in a tie remember, Barcelona wins on away goals. So I think a 1-1 or a 2-2 finish is more believable, and Barcelona is the obvious winner. Also like you stated, offense is their best defense. They have the highest scoring trio in the world. Who on Chelsea is going to contain Messi, Eto'o and Henry? If Henry plays anywhere near the level he did against Real Madrid Chelsea stand no chance. If they still had Makelele it'd be a different story but that mid-field will be exploited with counter-attack after counter-attack courtesy of Iniesta and Xavi.
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Post by cllaatsch on May 5, 2009 0:17:10 GMT -5
Who can contain the golden trio?
Answer: Barcelona 0-Chelsea 0 at the Camp Nou
I never changed my argument...I just explained what I was saying that their defense will be poor. I know many people believe that Barcelona will dominate...however many fail to realize that Chelsea are top shelf when it comes to scoring as well.
I still say that Chelsea pulls out the needed victory in order to advance. I would hate to see Chelsea lose on away goals.
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Post by Tigertecz on May 5, 2009 4:03:56 GMT -5
I don't think Barca will dominate, but I think they'll beat Chelsea for sure. They have the vital away goal advantage on their hands. A score draw is as good as a win for Barca, and as long as they score (which I strongly believe they will), I think they will go through. Chelsea are a great team, but I think the only way they can win is by frustrating Barca (like in the first leg) and by not "playing" football, like many Barca players complained about last week. If they stay tight and defensive, breaking only on counter attacks, it may work. If they try to play free-flowing passing football, Barca will punish them.
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Post by Tigertecz on May 5, 2009 4:04:18 GMT -5
The big game is tonight though We better win!
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Post by martinez on May 5, 2009 6:16:42 GMT -5
Who can contain the golden trio? Answer: Barcelona 0-Chelsea 0 at the Camp Nou I never changed my argument...I just explained what I was saying that their defense will be poor. I know many people believe that Barcelona will dominate...however many fail to realize that Chelsea are top shelf when it comes to scoring as well. I still say that Chelsea pulls out the needed victory in order to advance. I would hate to see Chelsea lose on away goals. A draw at home was the second best thing behind a win without allowing a goal at home. I give more merit to Barcelona holding Chelsea scoreless than vice-versa. Chelsea were playing very hard and taking people's legs off, I'd expect the ref to be much more strict this time around.
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Post by cllaatsch on May 5, 2009 12:08:33 GMT -5
I don't think Barca will dominate, but I think they'll beat Chelsea for sure. They have the vital away goal advantage on their hands. A score draw is as good as a win for Barca, and as long as they score (which I strongly believe they will), I think they will go through. Chelsea are a great team, but I think the only way they can win is by frustrating Barca (like in the first leg) and by not "playing" football, like many Barca players complained about last week. If they stay tight and defensive, breaking only on counter attacks, it may work. If they try to play free-flowing passing football, Barca will punish them. We will find out tomorrow. Today Manchester United book their trip to Roma.
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Post by Tigertecz on May 5, 2009 14:34:10 GMT -5
2-0 at half time with Park making the most of a slip by Gibbs with a beautiful little lift over the keeper, and then a ridiculous free kick by Ronaldo. Wow, just wow.
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Post by martinez on May 5, 2009 14:58:25 GMT -5
this should have been Villareal vs. Arsenal, if Villareal didn't have all those injuries when playing Arsenal no way they would have won.
I would have loved to see a Villareal vs. Man Utd match-up, they usually have some great games.
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Post by cllaatsch on May 5, 2009 15:07:52 GMT -5
Arsenal are an embarrassment to the sport.
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Post by Tigertecz on May 5, 2009 15:34:24 GMT -5
this should have been Villareal vs. Arsenal, if Villareal didn't have all those injuries when playing Arsenal no way they would have won. I would have loved to see a Villareal vs. Man Utd match-up, they usually have some great games. I take it you meant Villareal vs Man Utd The match has a bitter taste now as Fletcher will miss the final with that stupid red card, when he clearly got the ball. Poor poor refereeing and a stupid rule saying we can't appeal the decision. Fletcher's not my favourite player, but I feel so bad for him. His dream final has been stripped of him unjustly.
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