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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:09:27 GMT -5
Styro, you don't recall how we were talking about Manu? not sure, don't even know what you asked for, but i know, i like the situation i'm in, so i'm glad i didn't i guess... |
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Post by Kruwaukee on Feb 11, 2010 15:28:13 GMT -5
So tell me when has Amare, Sheed, KG, or Milsap had better seasons or a career than McDyess? Please justify it I want to hear your reasoning. I'll give Duncan than benefit of the doubt because he has had similar years to McDyess. Amare is young, i'd rather have him on my team over Mcdyess, which was also part of the criteria. McDyess, has fallen off the last 3 years compared to where he was and KG and Sheed seem to be getting better, so that's why i put them ahead. How does age factor into how good you are? Is this a trade value or rankings article? That really doesn't play to consistent to the rest of your article. Also McDyess has gone up in rebounding, blocked shots, and assists in the past 3 years while his scoring has stay about the same but gone down slightly since we switched to an outside focus offense. McDyess also deals with the scoring of Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, and Ronnie Fields but still puts up 20ppg. What do the other guys on the list deal with? You really didn't justify why those other guys are ranked ahead of him. You said he's falling off while the other guys are rising but even if that is the case which it isn't they still aren't better than him currently. If you can give me some reasons statistically or ratings wise I'll listen but I think this is just a fact that you overlooked him which is ok too but just admit it. |
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Post by Kruwaukee on Feb 11, 2010 15:31:43 GMT -5
i lol'd only argument with no validity in it... I'd take Ridnour over Hughes and Terry. I'm not sure how Kidd or Nash doesn't make this list. |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:36:25 GMT -5
i lol'd only argument with no validity in it... I'd take Ridnour over Hughes and Terry. I'm not sure how Kidd or Nash doesn't make this list. k...now your just being an idiot...ridnour has C+ defense, i don't see him in the top 5 period, smh at ridnour..i was actually taking your points seriously up till now. |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:40:25 GMT -5
Amare is young, i'd rather have him on my team over Mcdyess, which was also part of the criteria. McDyess, has fallen off the last 3 years compared to where he was and KG and Sheed seem to be getting better, so that's why i put them ahead. How does age factor into how good you are? Is this a trade value or rankings article? That really doesn't play to consistent to the rest of your article. Also McDyess has gone up in rebounding, blocked shots, and assists in the past 3 years while his scoring has stay about the same but gone down slightly since we switched to an outside focus offense. McDyess also deals with the scoring of Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, and Ronnie Fields but still puts up 20ppg. What do the other guys on the list deal with? You really didn't justify why those other guys are ranked ahead of him. You said he's falling off while the other guys are rising but even if that is the case which it isn't they still aren't better than him currently. If you can give me some reasons statistically or ratings wise I'll listen but I think this is just a fact that you overlooked him which is ok too but just admit it. over there careers, KG and McDyess haven't been that different, you can hardly separate the two as far as career stats. The only reason people hate on KG is because he's expected to be as good as Duncan and his been a disappointment. Since KG and Mcdyess aren't really far apart, if at all over there entire careers, i used the now as a tiebreaker, and kg is playing better. For there entire careers, the only difference is one point while KG has .5 more apg LOL, so i don't see how he's so much better that it's a lock for him to be on the list. I didn't overlook McDyess at all, i listed the top 10 at each position, the cut down the list from there. McDyess was one of the last ones out. What does KG deal with? he has two other players getting 20 ppg. What does Amare deal with? He has to fight for points with Tracy, kidd and Manu. Milsap is just a younger version of McDyess right now, who would you rather have? dare i ask. Sheed is probably the only one you should have a problem with, i probably shouldn't have put him there, but that's all McDyess has a case against. |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:46:06 GMT -5
i lol'd only argument with no validity in it... I'd take Ridnour over Hughes and Terry. I'm not sure how Kidd or Nash doesn't make this list. it's only top 5...you want to take other people out of the list? make your own then.. |
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Post by Kruwaukee on Feb 11, 2010 15:46:14 GMT -5
How does age factor into how good you are? Is this a trade value or rankings article? That really doesn't play to consistent to the rest of your article. Also McDyess has gone up in rebounding, blocked shots, and assists in the past 3 years while his scoring has stay about the same but gone down slightly since we switched to an outside focus offense. McDyess also deals with the scoring of Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, and Ronnie Fields but still puts up 20ppg. What do the other guys on the list deal with? You really didn't justify why those other guys are ranked ahead of him. You said he's falling off while the other guys are rising but even if that is the case which it isn't they still aren't better than him currently. If you can give me some reasons statistically or ratings wise I'll listen but I think this is just a fact that you overlooked him which is ok too but just admit it. over there careers, KG and McDyess haven't been that different, you can hardly separate the two as far as career stats. The only reason people hate on KG is because he's expected to be as good as Duncan and his been a disappointment. Since KG and Mcdyess aren't really far apart, if at all over there entire careers, i used the now as a tiebreaker, and kg is playing better. For there entire careers, the only difference is one point while KG has .5 more apg LOL, so i don't see how he's so much better that it's a lock for him to be on the list. I didn't overlook McDyess at all, i listed the top 10 at each position, the cut down the list from there. McDyess was one of the last ones out. Mcdyess has better stats throughout except PPG but thats just a tempo stat. KG averages a lot more shot attempts per game. Mcdyess has played 2 more games and he still doesn't have the same amount of shot attempts. Mcdyess is much more efficient. |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:47:22 GMT -5
over there careers, KG and McDyess haven't been that different, you can hardly separate the two as far as career stats. The only reason people hate on KG is because he's expected to be as good as Duncan and his been a disappointment. Since KG and Mcdyess aren't really far apart, if at all over there entire careers, i used the now as a tiebreaker, and kg is playing better. For there entire careers, the only difference is one point while KG has .5 more apg LOL, so i don't see how he's so much better that it's a lock for him to be on the list. I didn't overlook McDyess at all, i listed the top 10 at each position, the cut down the list from there. McDyess was one of the last ones out. Mcdyess has better stats throughout except PPG but thats just a tempo stat. KG averages a lot more shot attempts per game. Mcdyess has played 2 more games and he still doesn't have the same amount of shot attempts. Mcdyess is much more efficient. what about there careers? what does mcdyess have him on besides ppg? I didn't just use this season... fg% KG---.442 fg% McD--.448 i don't see the big difference in efficiency |
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Post by Kruwaukee on Feb 11, 2010 15:48:48 GMT -5
I'd take Ridnour over Hughes and Terry. I'm not sure how Kidd or Nash doesn't make this list. k...now your just being an idiot...ridnour has C+ defense, i don't see him in the top 5 period, smh at ridnour..i was actually taking your points seriously up till now. Tell me what Jason Terry's defense is then and STFU. Seriously you're bouncing all over the place. First its about stats, then its about age, then its about ratings. You have to be consistent if you want to be taken seriously. I think you did a nice job writing everything up but your factual basis for these rankings sucks. There is no rhyme or reason for anything and sure rankings are always subject to criticism but these are all just too off the wall. |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:50:47 GMT -5
k...now your just being an idiot...ridnour has C+ defense, i don't see him in the top 5 period, smh at ridnour..i was actually taking your points seriously up till now. Tell me what Jason Terry's defense is then and STFU. Seriously you're bouncing all over the place. First its about stats, then its about age, then its about ratings. You have to be consistent if you want to be taken seriously. I think you did a nice job writing everything up but your factual basis for these rankings sucks. There is no rhyme or reason for anything and sure rankings are always subject to criticism but these are all just too off the wall. I took Terry's d into consideration, but Terry is on a whole other level offensively, that's why he's ahead of ridnour. stfu idiot |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:51:48 GMT -5
k...now your just being an idiot...ridnour has C+ defense, i don't see him in the top 5 period, smh at ridnour..i was actually taking your points seriously up till now. Tell me what Jason Terry's defense is then and STFU. Seriously you're bouncing all over the place. First its about stats, then its about age, then its about ratings. You have to be consistent if you want to be taken seriously. I think you did a nice job writing everything up but your factual basis for these rankings sucks. There is no rhyme or reason for anything and sure rankings are always subject to criticism but these are all just too off the wall. i took all factors into consideration..not just one or the other..if you have a problem, then who gives a fuck. It's just an article, if i wanted to write your opinions i would've done a fuckin roundtable, but i didn't so gtfo w/ your biased shit. |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:53:22 GMT -5
The only guy who has a reason to be mad is probably broph, since i fucked up on Deshawn, but that's about it. Everyone else is just being biased...It's not like the list is littered with my players, it's a biased list of my opinion! that's it. It's not fact, it's just my opinion.
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Post by Kruwaukee on Feb 11, 2010 15:54:03 GMT -5
Mcdyess has better stats throughout except PPG but thats just a tempo stat. KG averages a lot more shot attempts per game. Mcdyess has played 2 more games and he still doesn't have the same amount of shot attempts. Mcdyess is much more efficient. what about there careers? what does mcdyess have him on besides ppg? I didn't just use this season... fg% KG---.442 fg% McD--.448 i don't see the big difference in efficiency I know they are similar but why only point to KG. Amare = 14ppg for his career Sheed sucks Milsap wouldn't make my top 10. Shittttt |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:57:17 GMT -5
what about there careers? what does mcdyess have him on besides ppg? I didn't just use this season... fg% KG---.442 fg% McD--.448 i don't see the big difference in efficiency I know they are similar but why only point to KG. Amare = 14ppg for his career Sheed sucks Milsap wouldn't make my top 10. Shittttt Amare has established himself as a 20 and 10 player, that's what he is. That's what McDyess is now, they aren't that different at the moment. I'd take Amare over McDyess on my team right now. Sheed is probably the one i'd put McDyess over, but i didn't overlook McDyess. Also, take into consideration that i've only been in the league since '03, so i didn't really get to see the impact McDyess had, he's been 18 ppg since i've been here. Maybe someone whose been here from the beginning might have made a better one for you guys, but oh well.. |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Feb 11, 2010 15:59:20 GMT -5
LOL @ the 3, i guess i should vote on articles based on whether their opinions align with mine.
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