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Post by aar on May 11, 2010 2:58:15 GMT -5
Cut Seraphin if I need a cut
Sonics trade:
Lawal Randolph Claver Jin Vet FA 2012 Sonics 1st 2013 Sonics 1st*
Warriors trade:
DeSagana Diop
* = 2013 Sonics 1st is top-10 protected and if it ends up top-10, the 2014 Sonics 1st goes to the Warriors
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Post by House on May 11, 2010 2:59:56 GMT -5
Accepted. I need to do SOMETHING. With diop I can make a run next year.
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Post by Kruwaukee on May 11, 2010 3:01:29 GMT -5
fire chipper and veto
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Post by Brophdog88 on May 11, 2010 3:04:54 GMT -5
why? next season is his CY..he has to move at some point, he needs a rebounder....is he making the move early? yeah, but Butler isn't getting any younger not to mention that Mo Williams is expiring
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Post by CC on May 11, 2010 3:19:11 GMT -5
damn, 2 1sts for diop...nice value for gs.
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Post by Kruwaukee on May 11, 2010 3:31:48 GMT -5
why? next season is his CY..he has to move at some point, he needs a rebounder....is he making the move early? yeah, but Butler isn't getting any younger not to mention that Mo Williams is expiring You can't defend this. He just ridded himself of any cap space he might have had in the offseason. Diop doesn't do anything particularly well and he has a bad contract. I didn't even get this much for Tyson Chandler and if he wanted rebounder and defender than Basone would have gladly traded Chipper Pryzbilla for probably what he gave here minus the firsts. This really puts the next GM in a huge hole. I think this trade is fire worthy considering the lack of anything chipper has brought to the table since he's been back.
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Post by Kruwaukee on May 11, 2010 3:33:32 GMT -5
Then we bring in a new GM and he doesn't have his own firsts for 2 seasons and does jack in the league and does a stupid trade like this 2 seasons later and the vicious circle continues. Fire Chipper and bring in a solid GM.
Sorry Aar this has nothing to do with you. Its a great trade on your end.
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Post by iflip on May 11, 2010 3:46:36 GMT -5
you do make a valid point.
and i thought i was the worst gm in this league.
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Post by Brophdog88 on May 11, 2010 4:05:01 GMT -5
why? next season is his CY..he has to move at some point, he needs a rebounder....is he making the move early? yeah, but Butler isn't getting any younger not to mention that Mo Williams is expiring You can't defend this. He just ridded himself of any cap space he might have had in the offseason. Diop doesn't do anything particularly well and he has a bad contract. I didn't even get this much for Tyson Chandler and if he wanted rebounder and defender than Basone would have gladly traded Chipper Pryzbilla for probably what he gave here minus the firsts. This really puts the next GM in a huge hole. I think this trade is fire worthy considering the lack of anything chipper has brought to the table since he's been back. 2 blocks and 11.7 rebounds with solid defense is nothing...yeah...ok did Chip overpay? yes, he paid two firsts, Diop, and his REBOUNDING is worth one, (he has improved since I sold him for one when I was tanking) Chip needs rebounding, and he still has Sullinger and Tyreke for the next GM, fairly certain that regardless Reke, Sully and Seattles pick will get his team enough to win for more than two years.....
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Post by Brophdog88 on May 11, 2010 4:08:38 GMT -5
not to mention Diops rebounding numbers are deflated if anything, the Warriors have Bron, Fields and Blatche all good rebounders to great rebounders for their position, Diop is an excellent rebounder, and next year, he has to win 40 meaning that pick holds less value than standard, because Chip will have the job til the offseason, since the new GM will come in and have really only one year of no pick at worst, and that pick is top 10 protected anyway...he didn't give up this years pick
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Post by Brophdog88 on May 11, 2010 4:09:35 GMT -5
also how much expiring did Chip give up in this deal Kru? just wondering....2 million? since he'll probably bring back Mo Williams, he wasn't going to have cap anyway
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Post by House on May 11, 2010 4:35:09 GMT -5
Everything Broseph said is exactly my point here. And I plan on winning 40 next year and not tanking in 13 either. These are 2 non-lotto picks I just gave up.
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Post by House on May 11, 2010 4:36:14 GMT -5
Also, I'm getting my Mac shipped here, one reason being this league. Customs is a bitch though.
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Post by Tigertecz on May 11, 2010 4:54:03 GMT -5
2 picks for Diop?! WTF
Also... I know the real reason why Aar did this trade... It's Claver time.
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Post by Spurs GM on May 11, 2010 4:57:49 GMT -5
meh, This deal is fine for Chipper.
Krup, you wanted Chipper to trade for Yi. From what I've been hearing you want a first for Yi, a player with no birds and the max that a team can offer him is 6mil....It's fine to be mad that he didn't do your deal but lol this deal is far from Veto worthy. I'm glad Chipper decided to gear up for next season.
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