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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 21, 2010 12:11:34 GMT -5
Broph is too much of a pussy to admit the west fucking sucks.
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Post by 2019 Champs on Oct 21, 2010 12:24:51 GMT -5
I need that 3rd seed so badly.
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Post by 2019 Champs on Oct 21, 2010 12:25:35 GMT -5
woooooow durant is hurt no wonder we sucked dick, such bullshit wow.
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Post by Kruwaukee on Oct 21, 2010 12:55:51 GMT -5
Travis Leslie is god
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 21, 2010 14:00:03 GMT -5
lol really? so a 36% winning percentage would do that? he could have dumped Meka, a shotblocker Center, and with him having max cap, he coulda taken on a 2 year deal if necessary, since he will have max no matter how he looks at it, coulda sworn I just saw Dwight Howard go with two firsts, and Dwight has a big contract too, or he coulda tried going to you, Meka is a hell of a lot better than Oden, and you coulda matched salary, coulda swore I saw Josh Smith go for nothing as well, but expiring, Houston coulda decided to make a serious attempt, he had the salaries to match, Indy had the salaries to match, and he is trying to reset his CY, and needs a post. He didnt have to get anything, Chip just didnt try, and thats on him, You are just so butt hurt over your deals not going through that you decided to go after me. I was AFTER YOU even BEFORE I made those deals because they were god awful. 1) Sure, I would have dealt Oden for Meka but didn't have the extra salary unless he wanted to take a two year deal. The point of the Perry trade was too free up more salary for him, remember? Chip would not have dealt for Meka to get back a 2 year deal no matter how small the contract. 2) Dwight Howard and Josh Smith are far better than Okafor. Not even comparable. The fact that Smith was dealt for nothing is a separate issue but Howard is good enough to land two firsts, Okafur isn't. I'm sure if Ducky wanted to he could have swung a deal for Okafor but it didn't happen, Indy doesn't have the contracts too match it without giving up anyone worthwhile. Chip made a trade block, this means he did try. The point is, why deal Perry Jones in the first place? He doesn't have his picks but it doesn't mean he can't make the playoffs...or if he really wanted to deal Jones why not wait till the off-season? Oden Tomas Tradeback 2 Vet FA's was enough to get Okafor FYI(or he could keep Tomas, since 2 million will not affect the contracts he can give out, and would be expiring before the next TC, Unlike Perry who took up 15.75 million next year. The West is shitty yes, but it was Chippers not making moves that prevented him from being lotto, he screwed that up, but, shit happens, thing is, he will still have an awful team, a bunch of picks, and his two next year, which should be nice lotto picks no doubt. The trade was supposed to be done when Chip was 7-6, but Chip got distracted...had he waited til the offseason to deal Perry he wasntt going to get his picks back, I would have had no need to deal so much to get his other pick, and I wouldnt have given it to J or you for cheap either, this was his chance, he took it, but, didnt capitalize on the situation cause he disappeared. 1998:19-63 1999: 28-54 2000: 31-51 2001: 39-43 2002: 50-32 2011: 22-60 2012: 31-51 2013: 26-56 2014: 32-50 2015: 40-42 CY RESET, NEW CY FORMAT 2016: 41-41 2017: 20-62 2018: and seriously, lol at you talking Shit, one winning season in 12 seasons, soon to be 13...and yeah you havent had great luck, but, for all your complaining about FA screwing you over, you have stolen somebody 2013 181 Jazz Sign PG Russell Westbrook for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Mavericks now, he sucks, but you gave the contract offer and took him 2018 181 Nets** Sign PG Ray McCallum for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Mavericks 2016 181 Bulls***** Sign C Alex Oriakhi for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Jazz 2008 181 Bulls**** Sign C Al Jefferson for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Nets 2005 181 Kings Sign PG Tony Parker for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Pistons 2003 181 Timberwolves* Sign SF Shawn Marion for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Knicks 2003 181 Clippers Sign PG Gilbert Arenas for $84,375,000 over 6 years Left Warriors 2004 181 Raptors* Sign SF Grant Hill for $51,975,000 over 3 years. Left Bucks 2002 181 Spurs* Sign PG Larry Hughes for $81,562,500 over 6 years. Left Celtics 2001 181 Kings Sign PF Dirk Nowitzki for $77,812,500 over 6 years. Left Clippers 2000 181 Knicks Sign PF Marcus Camby for $72,187,500 over 6 years. Left Mavericks 1995 181 Bullets Sign SG Jimmy Jackson for $56,250,000 over 6 years Left Nuggets so in reality the Mavs have been fucked over three times in this league, vs. you two times, now, yes its different GM's, but losing three players in FA is harsh |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 21, 2010 14:01:49 GMT -5
Broph is too much of a pussy to admit the west fucking sucks. and lol yes the West sucks, but three teams will be in their CY next year unless Ducky pulls off a miracle here |
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Post by J on Oct 21, 2010 14:16:58 GMT -5
2nd straight year I have a PG in the top 3 of the assists per game.
Way too many turnover prone players on my roster. Not sure how that's going to work out going forward. Dekeeba and Kehoe need to cut the turnovers down.
In the running for the #1 pick too.
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 21, 2010 14:19:13 GMT -5
I was AFTER YOU even BEFORE I made those deals because they were god awful. 1) Sure, I would have dealt Oden for Meka but didn't have the extra salary unless he wanted to take a two year deal. The point of the Perry trade was too free up more salary for him, remember? Chip would not have dealt for Meka to get back a 2 year deal no matter how small the contract. 2) Dwight Howard and Josh Smith are far better than Okafor. Not even comparable. The fact that Smith was dealt for nothing is a separate issue but Howard is good enough to land two firsts, Okafur isn't. I'm sure if Ducky wanted to he could have swung a deal for Okafor but it didn't happen, Indy doesn't have the contracts too match it without giving up anyone worthwhile. Chip made a trade block, this means he did try. The point is, why deal Perry Jones in the first place? He doesn't have his picks but it doesn't mean he can't make the playoffs...or if he really wanted to deal Jones why not wait till the off-season? Oden Tomas Tradeback 2 Vet FA's was enough to get Okafor FYI(or he could keep Tomas, since 2 million will not affect the contracts he can give out, and would be expiring before the next TC, Unlike Perry who took up 15.75 million next year. The West is shitty yes, but it was Chippers not making moves that prevented him from being lotto, he screwed that up, but, shit happens, thing is, he will still have an awful team, a bunch of picks, and his two next year, which should be nice lotto picks no doubt. The trade was supposed to be done when Chip was 7-6, but Chip got distracted...had he waited til the offseason to deal Perry he wasntt going to get his picks back, I would have had no need to deal so much to get his other pick, and I wouldnt have given it to J or you for cheap either, this was his chance, he took it, but, didnt capitalize on the situation cause he disappeared. 1998:19-63 1999: 28-54 2000: 31-51 2001: 39-43 2002: 50-32 2011: 22-60 2012: 31-51 2013: 26-56 2014: 32-50 2015: 40-42 CY RESET, NEW CY FORMAT 2016: 41-41 2017: 20-62 2018: and seriously, lol at you talking Shit, one winning season in 12 seasons, soon to be 13...and yeah you havent had great luck, but, for all your complaining about FA screwing you over, you have stolen somebody 2013 181 Jazz Sign PG Russell Westbrook for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Mavericks now, he sucks, but you gave the contract offer and took him 2018 181 Nets** Sign PG Ray McCallum for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Mavericks 2016 181 Bulls***** Sign C Alex Oriakhi for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Jazz 2008 181 Bulls**** Sign C Al Jefferson for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Nets 2005 181 Kings Sign PG Tony Parker for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Pistons 2003 181 Timberwolves* Sign SF Shawn Marion for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Knicks 2003 181 Clippers Sign PG Gilbert Arenas for $84,375,000 over 6 years Left Warriors 2004 181 Raptors* Sign SF Grant Hill for $51,975,000 over 3 years. Left Bucks 2002 181 Spurs* Sign PG Larry Hughes for $81,562,500 over 6 years. Left Celtics 2001 181 Kings Sign PF Dirk Nowitzki for $77,812,500 over 6 years. Left Clippers 2000 181 Knicks Sign PF Marcus Camby for $72,187,500 over 6 years. Left Mavericks 1995 181 Bullets Sign SG Jimmy Jackson for $56,250,000 over 6 years Left Nuggets so in reality the Mavs have been fucked over three times in this league, vs. you two times, now, yes its different GM's, but losing three players in FA is harsh You're simply making excuses and skirtting the subject. Also try paragraph spacing in your posts, its not a novel concept. The fact that you concede that the west is shitty, is enough for you to concede that you stole Perry Jones. Put simply, you deal Ray in ANY trade if it nets you Perry Jones. Don't go off on that bullshit that you would have not made the deal to get Ray for just one pick. Second point, in the west, Chipper could have been competitive enough to make a run for the playoffs the next three seasons. It was stupid to even deal Jones for such a shitty offer, so shitty that Jay got more in the deal than Chipper. Third point, I may not be interested in trade Oden for Okafor, simply put, it stalls his rebuilding (which is currently happening) so I don't pull the trigger on that deal. This leaves no team interested in taking Okafor, a player Chipper made a trade block for and no one responded. Getting one pick from Jay instead of two is far easier, Harris could have netted one pick from Jay as well for a sign and trade in the off-season. Onto you skirtting the issue again, if you want to bring up my record, bring up the best player on my team when I took it over. Not to mention that I took over a franchise that was missing picks from the previous GM. As for my best player, it was Tony Dumas, that's all I had until I got screwed in the draft year over year and picked up the overrated Nazr from the draft and took Parker the following season. Built my team around Parker after losing him, I had to rush to make my contract year. I got busy, the east was tough and had to take some time off knowing I wouldn't make the CY anyway. MY 50 win season from a previous year came as an eigth seed, with Nash and Iverson hurt early in my CY, I had no business making the playoffs. Yes, I did get Westbrook...he sucked though, none of the players that left the Mavericks were as good as Tony and Alex, to boot, I had lost them after their rookie seasons and they were the top players in each of their drafts entering their contract season. The Mavs didn't lose the top players in each of their respective drafts and they didn't have a GM in the off-season to resign Ray McCallum. |
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 21, 2010 14:20:47 GMT -5
Broph is too much of a pussy to admit the west fucking sucks. and lol yes the West sucks, but three teams will be in their CY next year unless Ducky pulls off a miracle here Spurs, Rockets and who else? Even if that's the case, this doesn't mean the west will no longer be shitting next season. |
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 21, 2010 14:26:41 GMT -5
Broph, I find it hilarious that anytime you're losing in an argument against me you have a need to bring up my record here.
It's patheticly obvious you do it to change the subject when you know you're losing the argument.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 21, 2010 14:36:20 GMT -5
and lol yes the West sucks, but three teams will be in their CY next year unless Ducky pulls off a miracle here Spurs, Rockets and who else? Even if that's the case, this doesn't mean the west will no longer be shitting next season. Timberwolves |
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Post by J on Oct 21, 2010 14:42:59 GMT -5
Leave Jay out of this.
I'm scared of my contract year too. I'm going to own the board with posts for +'s.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 21, 2010 14:52:27 GMT -5
Oden Tomas Tradeback 2 Vet FA's was enough to get Okafor FYI(or he could keep Tomas, since 2 million will not affect the contracts he can give out, and would be expiring before the next TC, Unlike Perry who took up 15.75 million next year. The West is shitty yes, but it was Chippers not making moves that prevented him from being lotto, he screwed that up, but, shit happens, thing is, he will still have an awful team, a bunch of picks, and his two next year, which should be nice lotto picks no doubt. The trade was supposed to be done when Chip was 7-6, but Chip got distracted...had he waited til the offseason to deal Perry he wasntt going to get his picks back, I would have had no need to deal so much to get his other pick, and I wouldnt have given it to J or you for cheap either, this was his chance, he took it, but, didnt capitalize on the situation cause he disappeared. 1998:19-63 1999: 28-54 2000: 31-51 2001: 39-43 2002: 50-32 2011: 22-60 2012: 31-51 2013: 26-56 2014: 32-50 2015: 40-42 CY RESET, NEW CY FORMAT 2016: 41-41 2017: 20-62 2018: and seriously, lol at you talking Shit, one winning season in 12 seasons, soon to be 13...and yeah you havent had great luck, but, for all your complaining about FA screwing you over, you have stolen somebody 2013 181 Jazz Sign PG Russell Westbrook for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Mavericks now, he sucks, but you gave the contract offer and took him 2018 181 Nets** Sign PG Ray McCallum for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Mavericks 2016 181 Bulls***** Sign C Alex Oriakhi for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Jazz 2008 181 Bulls**** Sign C Al Jefferson for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Nets 2005 181 Kings Sign PG Tony Parker for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Pistons 2003 181 Timberwolves* Sign SF Shawn Marion for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Knicks 2003 181 Clippers Sign PG Gilbert Arenas for $84,375,000 over 6 years Left Warriors 2004 181 Raptors* Sign SF Grant Hill for $51,975,000 over 3 years. Left Bucks 2002 181 Spurs* Sign PG Larry Hughes for $81,562,500 over 6 years. Left Celtics 2001 181 Kings Sign PF Dirk Nowitzki for $77,812,500 over 6 years. Left Clippers 2000 181 Knicks Sign PF Marcus Camby for $72,187,500 over 6 years. Left Mavericks 1995 181 Bullets Sign SG Jimmy Jackson for $56,250,000 over 6 years Left Nuggets so in reality the Mavs have been fucked over three times in this league, vs. you two times, now, yes its different GM's, but losing three players in FA is harsh You're simply making excuses and skirtting the subject. Also try paragraph spacing in your posts, its not a novel concept. The fact that you concede that the west is shitty, is enough for you to concede that you stole Perry Jones. Put simply, you deal Ray in ANY trade if it nets you Perry Jones. Don't go off on that bullshit that you would have not made the deal to get Ray for just one pick. Second point, in the west, Chipper could have been competitive enough to make a run for the playoffs the next three seasons. It was stupid to even deal Jones for such a shitty offer, so shitty that Jay got more in the deal than Chipper. Third point, I may not be interested in trade Oden for Okafor, simply put, it stalls his rebuilding (which is currently happening) so I don't pull the trigger on that deal. This leaves no team interested in taking Okafor, a player Chipper made a trade block for and no one responded. Getting one pick from Jay instead of two is far easier, Harris could have netted one pick from Jay as well for a sign and trade in the off-season. Onto you skirtting the issue again, if you want to bring up my record, bring up the best player on my team when I took it over. Not to mention that I took over a franchise that was missing picks from the previous GM. As for my best player, it was Tony Dumas, that's all I had until I got screwed in the draft year over year and picked up the overrated Nazr from the draft and took Parker the following season. Built my team around Parker after losing him, I had to rush to make my contract year. I got busy, the east was tough and had to take some time off knowing I wouldn't make the CY anyway. MY 50 win season from a previous year came as an eigth seed, with Nash and Iverson hurt early in my CY, I had no business making the playoffs. Yes, I did get Westbrook...he sucked though, none of the players that left the Mavericks were as good as Tony and Alex, to boot, I had lost them after their rookie seasons and they were the top players in each of their drafts entering their contract season. The Mavs didn't lose the top players in each of their respective drafts and they didn't have a GM in the off-season to resign Ray McCallum. yeah, but Ashes put in an offer for McCallum, and, in the 2001 draft Tony Parker was not the best player, or close to it when you lost him, Jason Richardson was coming off a 23 ppg season, Dajuan Wagner was arguably better at the time FA came and went, Mo Williams ended up winning the MVP and being an insane scoring PG, Parker was one of the best, but not the best...it took Parker til his third season with the Kings to even become a great PG, he was a nicce PG but not elite...hell you lucked into both him and Oriakhi, Ducky picked Oriakhi, and Parker, the clear #1 guy, was passed over by Saga for Carlos Boozer. Eddy Curry was a 22 and 12 guy for a while too. As for Oriakhi's draft, Gilchrist is better, and Ducky made that pick for you as well Also, please dont say you got screwed in the draft picking an overrated Nazr...you were the one who overrated him, and he was a late lotto pick, to get a big jump outta him was not to be expected, after losing Parker, you had a full five seasons to win 40 games, and you couldnt do it, thats terrible. Now, back to the Seattle Deal..Chipper getting back his pick this year was a big part, he could have tanked better, but he didnt, to get Perry in the offseason, I would have had to acquire the pick that you own as well, as it was the opportunity for Chip to tank this year that was important to the deal. Now, it turns out that he isnt gonna be lotto, but when the deal was made, based on the way his team has played, he could easily have been lotto had he actually looked to deal his players. He didnt though, thats his fault, the deal was fine, but he didnt look to deal anybody, so he screwed up |
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Post by Spurs GM on Oct 21, 2010 14:55:22 GMT -5
I was AFTER YOU even BEFORE I made those deals because they were god awful. 1) Sure, I would have dealt Oden for Meka but didn't have the extra salary unless he wanted to take a two year deal. The point of the Perry trade was too free up more salary for him, remember? Chip would not have dealt for Meka to get back a 2 year deal no matter how small the contract. 2) Dwight Howard and Josh Smith are far better than Okafor. Not even comparable. The fact that Smith was dealt for nothing is a separate issue but Howard is good enough to land two firsts, Okafur isn't. I'm sure if Ducky wanted to he could have swung a deal for Okafor but it didn't happen, Indy doesn't have the contracts too match it without giving up anyone worthwhile. Chip made a trade block, this means he did try. The point is, why deal Perry Jones in the first place? He doesn't have his picks but it doesn't mean he can't make the playoffs...or if he really wanted to deal Jones why not wait till the off-season? Oden Tomas Tradeback 2 Vet FA's was enough to get Okafor FYI(or he could keep Tomas, since 2 million will not affect the contracts he can give out, and would be expiring before the next TC, Unlike Perry who took up 15.75 million next year. The West is shitty yes, but it was Chippers not making moves that prevented him from being lotto, he screwed that up, but, shit happens, thing is, he will still have an awful team, a bunch of picks, and his two next year, which should be nice lotto picks no doubt. The trade was supposed to be done when Chip was 7-6, but Chip got distracted...had he waited til the offseason to deal Perry he wasntt going to get his picks back, I would have had no need to deal so much to get his other pick, and I wouldnt have given it to J or you for cheap either, this was his chance, he took it, but, didnt capitalize on the situation cause he disappeared. 1998:19-63 1999: 28-54 2000: 31-51 2001: 39-43 2002: 50-32 2011: 22-60 2012: 31-51 2013: 26-56 2014: 32-50 2015: 40-42 CY RESET, NEW CY FORMAT 2016: 41-41 2017: 20-62 2018: and seriously, lol at you talking Shit, one winning season in 12 seasons, soon to be 13...and yeah you havent had great luck, but, for all your complaining about FA screwing you over, you have stolen somebody 2013 181 Jazz Sign PG Russell Westbrook for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Mavericks now, he sucks, but you gave the contract offer and took him 2018 181 Nets** Sign PG Ray McCallum for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Mavericks 2016 181 Bulls***** Sign C Alex Oriakhi for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Jazz 2008 181 Bulls**** Sign C Al Jefferson for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Nets 2005 181 Kings Sign PG Tony Parker for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Pistons 2003 181 Timberwolves* Sign SF Shawn Marion for $84,375,000 over 6 years. Left Knicks 2003 181 Clippers Sign PG Gilbert Arenas for $84,375,000 over 6 years Left Warriors 2004 181 Raptors* Sign SF Grant Hill for $51,975,000 over 3 years. Left Bucks 2002 181 Spurs* Sign PG Larry Hughes for $81,562,500 over 6 years. Left Celtics 2001 181 Kings Sign PF Dirk Nowitzki for $77,812,500 over 6 years. Left Clippers 2000 181 Knicks Sign PF Marcus Camby for $72,187,500 over 6 years. Left Mavericks 1995 181 Bullets Sign SG Jimmy Jackson for $56,250,000 over 6 years Left Nuggets so in reality the Mavs have been fucked over three times in this league, vs. you two times, now, yes its different GM's, but losing three players in FA is harsh You forgot when I traded the Mavs Shaq, and he returned to me the following offseason lol. Mavs had it bad wow. |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 21, 2010 14:59:04 GMT -5
yeah, but that was Kobes own damned fault, He didnt offer Shaq the money
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