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Post by donatello2424 on Nov 23, 2010 15:40:25 GMT -5
Tag matches are great, but the WWE sucks so bad that they wont have a tag division. Last night int he KOTR qualifiers I knew the outcome of ever match. It's all to predictable anymore, I seriously fast forwarded through most matches. It is. KOTR is gonna be horrible if it is really going to be sheamus/jackson/bryan/morrison. |
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Post by 2019 Champs on Nov 23, 2010 15:40:26 GMT -5
He is right there with Rock, Hogan, Austin, etc, when it is all said and done. Fuck no. He can't wrestle. It's as simple as that. I don't watch much wrestling at all these days, but when I do, the crowd is NEVER rowdy, even when Cena is out. Back in the Attitude era the fans were constantly on their feet. All it'd take is for the glass to smash before Austin's music played and all hell breaks loose. Nothing compares these days. The mid-card actually got pops then too, and now they don't. It has more to do with the fact that it is kids watching now rather than a lot of adults. Cena is a better wrestler than the Rock and Hogan, and is as good as Austin was in his later days. Cena is the only guy on the roster who gets a huge reaction nightly. |
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Post by tEnSiXniNe on Nov 23, 2010 15:40:50 GMT -5
As far as money makers go 1. Rock 2. Hogan 3. Austin 4. Cena You dont have to like it, but that is what it is Fuuuuuuuuuuuck no. Wasn't there a long period of time where people just began to grow bored of Cena and hate on him even when WWE made him a face? Dude Cena sells merchandise like a mother fucker. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 23, 2010 15:40:59 GMT -5
Rock is not the WWE's biggest money maker at all, Austin is the biggest money maker for WWE/F all-time. I read some report last year I cannot remember where, but it said as far as PPV sales, and merch Rock was #1. Austin and Hogan close to him but not above him and Hogan JUST above Austin. Hogan's peak popularity was at a time when wrestling wasn't as universally mainstream and popular as Rock/Austin's era. |
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Post by donatello2424 on Nov 23, 2010 15:41:15 GMT -5
As far as money makers go 1. Rock 2. Hogan 3. Austin 4. Cena You dont have to like it, but that is what it is Fuuuuuuuuuuuck no. Wasn't there a long period of time where people just began to grow bored of Cena and hate on him even when WWE made him a face? People hate Cena's in-ring skills now. But the fans who are kids LOVE him. |
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Post by donatello2424 on Nov 23, 2010 15:41:36 GMT -5
I think cena and Rey are probably the top two sales guys for the kids fans.
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Post by 2019 Champs on Nov 23, 2010 15:41:55 GMT -5
Stop and think about Foley's career for a second. Is he really that high up? Just because he 2 or so really hot feuds. Cena is def above foley in my eyes easily. Oh man, Foley's legacy kicks the shit out of Cena's. Flair was right when he said Foley is a glorified stunt man. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 23, 2010 15:42:17 GMT -5
Fuck no. He can't wrestle. It's as simple as that. I don't watch much wrestling at all these days, but when I do, the crowd is NEVER rowdy, even when Cena is out. Back in the Attitude era the fans were constantly on their feet. All it'd take is for the glass to smash before Austin's music played and all hell breaks loose. Nothing compares these days. The mid-card actually got pops then too, and now they don't. It has more to do with the fact that it is kids watching now rather than a lot of adults. Cena is a better wrestler than the Rock and Hogan, and is as good as Austin was in his later days. Cena is the only guy on the roster who gets a huge reaction nightly. Actually, I tell you what the problem is... too many wrestlers. To have two rosters of shows... the whole Smackdown vs Raw angle killed the company. Vince bought too many other companies lol and ended up with too many wrestlers. They can't all be popular, hence mid-cards don't get reactions. Quantity over quality. |
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Post by donatello2424 on Nov 23, 2010 15:42:44 GMT -5
Fuck no. He can't wrestle. It's as simple as that. I don't watch much wrestling at all these days, but when I do, the crowd is NEVER rowdy, even when Cena is out. Back in the Attitude era the fans were constantly on their feet. All it'd take is for the glass to smash before Austin's music played and all hell breaks loose. Nothing compares these days. The mid-card actually got pops then too, and now they don't. It has more to do with the fact that it is kids watching now rather than a lot of adults. Cena is a better wrestler than the Rock and Hogan, and is as good as Austin was in his later days. Cena is the only guy on the roster who gets a huge reaction nightly. WWE has gone away from the sex, gore, ect. It is all kid friendly now. |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Nov 23, 2010 15:42:45 GMT -5
I turned Tynt off, Yee!!!!
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Post by 2019 Champs on Nov 23, 2010 15:42:55 GMT -5
I read some report last year I cannot remember where, but it said as far as PPV sales, and merch Rock was #1. Austin and Hogan close to him but not above him and Hogan JUST above Austin. Hogan's peak popularity was at a time when wrestling wasn't as universally mainstream and popular as Rock/Austin's era. There is no denying Hogan MADE wrestling what it is. Cena is in that group of greats though. |
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Post by Tigertecz on Nov 23, 2010 15:43:16 GMT -5
Oh man, Foley's legacy kicks the shit out of Cena's. Flair was right when he said Foley is a glorified stunt man. Jeff Hardy is a glorified stunt man. Foley put hardcore matches on the map. |
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Post by Spencer on Nov 23, 2010 15:43:17 GMT -5
Broph, rename the thread. Who looks best in spandex, no chicks allowed.
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Post by 2019 Champs on Nov 23, 2010 15:43:23 GMT -5
I agree. the Brand split should end now. the roster is too thin.
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Post by tEnSiXniNe on Nov 23, 2010 15:43:36 GMT -5
Oh man, Foley's legacy kicks the shit out of Cena's. Flair was right when he said Foley is a glorified stunt man. Legacy? Who gives a shit about legacy we are talking about MONEY MAKERS. Foley got thrown off of a cage, BIG DEAL. Cena has made MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS for Vince. If Foley was at all marketable any more do you not think Vince would have him? Vince will get who he wants plain and simple. |
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