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Post by ashes on Oct 16, 2009 15:25:19 GMT -5
Basically, mike just let you do whatever you want with your team here rather than forcing you to try your hand at fighting back from the injury which would be no easy task, not too mention the season is so young it's impossible to assume anything.
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 16, 2009 15:25:56 GMT -5
Hornets pick were never up for trade and the Knicks made a trade block for the Celtics pick. You can't claim, "Nobody had offered him better deals", when nobody knew it was up for trade. He tried to get Baron Davis, no luck, and he did shop it some....Thing is, I am the team who values the pick most,a s it is my pick, you stated the best you could have offered is two firsts...so I don't get where you are coming from saying teams could have offered more. he was not looking to win, therefore he wants prospects...he got the number 10 pick from last year, and a player who exploded in TC, for what, If I didn't acquire it, would be at best the 11th or twelfth pick overall in this draft You claimed, "Nobody had offered him better deals", when nobody knew it was up for trade. If the Hornets pick and the Celtics pick were being shopped, why wouldn't the Clippers shop the Nets pick? |
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Post by ashes on Oct 16, 2009 15:26:02 GMT -5
My point was, you saying basically "Well either I get my pick back or I go trade for Miner" is a threat, and a threat that would have a lot of work to do to catch up to being remotely credible. Prince is right, in a deal like this, you're supposed to have no leverage because you do in face have none. Yet I guess you were able to convince mike otherwise. This was awful for mike because right now, I'd rather take my chances on the pick than Kwame or Watson. If I were a GM and you had presented this pitch and threat to me, I would've said "Go for it." I had a deal in place for Miner...so I had no issues with it And I would've said, "Trade for Miner then." |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 16, 2009 15:26:22 GMT -5
Basically, mike just let you do whatever you want with your team here rather than forcing you to try your hand at fighting back from the injury which would be no easy task, not too mention the season is so young it's impossible to assume anything. I understand that, however, he was worried that if I make that trade and start winning, my pick loses its value...I wanted to do whatever I did by the day 30 sim, so it was coming down to the finish line |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 16, 2009 15:27:40 GMT -5
I pressured him, no doubt, but I don't think its that bad, Kwame is young, and Watson should be solid
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Post by ashes on Oct 16, 2009 15:28:36 GMT -5
I just don't see how a team of 3 guards and a guy who's a solid shot-blocker scares anyone.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 16, 2009 15:29:07 GMT -5
I just don't see how a team of 3 guards and a guy who's a solid shot-blocker scares anyone. It won 55 games last year.....my scoring comes all from my guards, I just want post defenders.... |
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Post by ashes on Oct 16, 2009 15:30:46 GMT -5
Not after being 6-15 with a PG that's a marginal defender at best.
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Post by ashes on Oct 16, 2009 15:31:28 GMT -5
The only post defenders you have on your team are Juwan Howard and Adonal Foyle, and they are only above-average.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 16, 2009 15:32:22 GMT -5
Not after being 6-15 with a PG that's a marginal defender at best. Harold is single handedly carrying the Pacers into the playoffs, that team is worse overall, yet as a PG, Harold is lighting it up, 28 ppg 9 assists and 6.7 boards is nothing to scoff at...yeah his defesne isn't great...but my team is better than the Pacers...also, I will get Chauncey back for 12 games... |
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 16, 2009 15:34:04 GMT -5
The only post defenders you have on your team are Juwan Howard and Adonal Foyle, and they are only above-average. Last year my only post defender was Juwan Howard...that was it....and I won 55 games...Korleone only blocks shots, and Foster rebounded a lot...Foyle is a better rebounder then Juwan and has the same D...had I made the Miner trade, I would have had a lineup of Miner/Stack/Rose/Korleone/Foyle |
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Post by ashes on Oct 16, 2009 15:36:22 GMT -5
What mike got was not worth giving up the pick. That's all there is to it.
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 16, 2009 15:37:04 GMT -5
All fine and dandy but you can't claim, "Nobody had offered him better deals" when the Clippers never bothered putting up a trade block. It's intellectually dishonest to make such a claim.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 16, 2009 15:38:09 GMT -5
All fine and dandy but you can't claim, "Nobody had offered him better deals" when the Clippers never bothered putting up a trade block. It's intellectually dishonest to make such a claim. He used the pick in a few negotiations, and you can't claim that anybody would have given him better offers when you wouldn't have given a better offer. |
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Post by ashes on Oct 16, 2009 15:38:17 GMT -5
Other deals being offered doesn't bother me, it's just the fact that someone gave up a current lotto pick based on the premise the other team would try to get better. Seems ridiculous.
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