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Post by princemaharajah on Mar 26, 2010 12:32:52 GMT -5
Again, I have no problem "laying in my mess" but I'll be rebuilding this team not trying to get 40.
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Post by ib4 on Mar 26, 2010 12:36:00 GMT -5
this goes back to my previous post, but what is truly the intention of the Contract Year? i know it is a sim league, but if you want to compare it to real life, an exec or coach gets fired for not building a winning team. but if the purpose of CY here is to punish Prince more than do what's best for the Pistons (which should be to WIN games), then I'd say find someone else since he clearly states he is going to continue to rebuild if he stays on with the Pitstains.
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Post by princemaharajah on Mar 26, 2010 12:41:03 GMT -5
this goes back to my previous post, but what is truly the intention of the Contract Year? i know it is a sim league, but if you want to compare it to real life, an exec or coach gets fired for not building a winning team. but if the purpose of CY here is to punish Prince more than do what's best for the Pistons (which should be to WIN games), then I'd say find someone else since he clearly states he is going to continue to rebuild if he stays on with the Pitstains. I don't disagree with this post but you said, "continue to rebuild" I was trying to win the last three seasons and was unsuccessful. I even had a losing record with Nash and Iverson. The team should go into rebuild mode, regardless of who the GM is.
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Post by Kruwaukee on Mar 26, 2010 12:54:31 GMT -5
Ok I see Prince's point now. It's not like he has 3-4 lotto picks under his belt on this team and he poised to tank another year to get a dynasty. He tried winning and it didn't work he needs to tear this franchise apart for it to be successful.
I think, Prince, if you can be very proactive in trading your guys and rebuilding then let him stay. Reset the clock.
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Post by princemaharajah on Mar 26, 2010 13:19:03 GMT -5
Ok I see Prince's point now. It's not like he has 3-4 lotto picks under his belt on this team and he poised to tank another year to get a dynasty. He tried winning and it didn't work he needs to tear this franchise apart for it to be successful. I think, Prince, if you can be very proactive in trading your guys and rebuilding then let him stay. Reset the clock. Not sure if I would word in the same manner, I wouldn't tear the franchise apart completely. I may keep Artest and Iverson and try to move Nash, etc. Even if I did "tank" I don't necessarily achieve a dynasty either, unless I land the top pick. But as you said, the clock should be reset for the team no matter who the GM is. It would be punishing the franchise to go through another set back where I'm trying to get 40.
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Post by princemaharajah on Mar 27, 2010 8:20:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the deciding outcome is but I'll respect the decision. For those that still believe "I'm in a mess" imagine if I traded for another over the hill veteran that would cripple the franchise just for me to get 40 and I somehow fall short...the "mess" would just be larger. Heck if I never traded for Iverson and Nash in attempt to get 40, the "mess" would ostensibly be less since I would have more younger players and less players on larger contracts.
I hope people understand where I'm coming from. If you do want to punish me like IB4 said, punish me by putting me on the waiting list where I would have to wait 5 seasons to get another team. Don't punish the franchise. Any GM that takes over would naturally want to rebuild this team. And if I had to stay on to "lay in my mess" I would rebuild the team.
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Post by cliff "woo" harris on Mar 27, 2010 18:00:10 GMT -5
Ok I see Prince's point now. It's not like he has 3-4 lotto picks under his belt on this team and he poised to tank another year to get a dynasty. He tried winning and it didn't work he needs to tear this franchise apart for it to be successful. I think, Prince, if you can be very proactive in trading your guys and rebuilding then let him stay. Reset the clock. I'd rather hit the reset button on him than give him a new team. So would everyone be OK with giving prince the restart with the pistons? This won't be come a trend, but I think in this case, we'll make an exception.
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Mar 27, 2010 18:03:48 GMT -5
yea, that'd be fine
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Post by donatello2424 on Mar 27, 2010 19:11:46 GMT -5
Ok I see Prince's point now. It's not like he has 3-4 lotto picks under his belt on this team and he poised to tank another year to get a dynasty. He tried winning and it didn't work he needs to tear this franchise apart for it to be successful. I think, Prince, if you can be very proactive in trading your guys and rebuilding then let him stay. Reset the clock. I'd rather hit the reset button on him than give him a new team. So would everyone be OK with giving prince the restart with the pistons? This won't be come a trend, but I think in this case, we'll make an exception. So essentially he gets 10 years to get to 40 wins?
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Mar 27, 2010 19:15:00 GMT -5
lulz
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Post by princemaharajah on Mar 27, 2010 19:35:38 GMT -5
I'd rather hit the reset button on him than give him a new team. So would everyone be OK with giving prince the restart with the pistons? This won't be come a trend, but I think in this case, we'll make an exception. So essentially he gets 10 years to get to 40 wins? Do you think its fair to punish the franchise. I wouldn't mind taking a league vote to decide what to do, I wouldn't vote in that poll.
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Post by donatello2424 on Mar 27, 2010 20:01:49 GMT -5
So essentially he gets 10 years to get to 40 wins? Do you think its fair to punish the franchise. I wouldn't mind taking a league vote to decide what to do, I wouldn't vote in that poll. It isn't the franchise I am concerned about, it is the concept of the CY. If we allow Prince a pass then the next time this happens to someone they are gonna bitch that Prince got an extra 5 years. I just don't think you tried your hardest to make your CY. You only made 4 dC's the whole season. If something doesn't work, you change it up. I feel that you were basically content with your team and then you tried to make a last second trade with nash. You should have brought in a big man, which was your biggest weakness instead of hoping that Gasol and Nazr would carry you.
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Post by princemaharajah on Mar 27, 2010 20:42:13 GMT -5
Do you think its fair to punish the franchise. I wouldn't mind taking a league vote to decide what to do, I wouldn't vote in that poll. It isn't the franchise I am concerned about, it is the concept of the CY. If we allow Prince a pass then the next time this happens to someone they are gonna bitch that Prince got an extra 5 years. I just don't think you tried your hardest to make your CY. You only made 4 dC's the whole season. If something doesn't work, you change it up. I feel that you were basically content with your team and then you tried to make a last second trade with nash. You should have brought in a big man, which was your biggest weakness instead of hoping that Gasol and Nazr would carry you. I did say that I don't mind being put on the waiting list and having a five season lay over. But people still want me to "lay in my mess." In regards to the DC, there wasn't much to change...the focus, the options? I played my best players. I tried to get to 40 for the last three seasons and failed. Even after pairing Iverson and Nash I still had a losing record. As for the big man, there weren't a lot available on the market except for Marshall and Wallace, both which would have crippled the franchise with large contracts.
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Post by princemaharajah on Mar 27, 2010 20:42:48 GMT -5
What do you think I should do Don?
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Post by Contract Year on Mar 28, 2010 9:53:24 GMT -5
This should be decided today.. the draft is here
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