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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Dec 13, 2009 13:09:07 GMT -5
I disagree with you Don. I think team records should definitely play a part, but it shouldn't make up for 11 td's.
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Post by donatello2424 on Dec 13, 2009 13:12:39 GMT -5
I disagree with you Don. I think team records should definitely play a part, but it shouldn't make up for 11 td's. The Heisman should be for the best collegiate player. Not the best player on one of the best teams. That is also why the MVP is a complete crock. It isn't for the best player, it has become an award for the best player on one of the top teams. |
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Post by Clifford "Poop" Harris on Dec 13, 2009 13:35:49 GMT -5
I disagree with you Don. I think team records should definitely play a part, but it shouldn't make up for 11 td's. The Heisman should be for the best collegiate player. Not the best player on one of the best teams. That is also why the MVP is a complete crock. It isn't for the best player, it has become an award for the best player on one of the top teams. MVP = most valuable player, you aren't as valuable if your team isn't good. If your team is struggling at the bottom of the playoff standings, you aren't as valuable as someone leading his team to 60 wins, it's obvious. Heisman shouldn't go to the best player, if it was to the best player, why not give it to golden tate or casey keenum or claussen? |
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Post by kobe24 on Dec 13, 2009 13:41:56 GMT -5
Ingram actually had 18 total TD's. And I think record should play a role.
And styro, the SEC has some very good offenses. But they also have 4 or 5 teams in the top 30 defensively. And a few others right outside of that.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Dec 13, 2009 16:39:14 GMT -5
Ingram actually had 18 total TD's. And I think record should play a role. And styro, the SEC has some very good offenses. But they also have 4 or 5 teams in the top 30 defensively. And a few others right outside of that. the award is supposed to go to the most outstanding player....Suh was the most outstanding player in the nation. Team record should have nothing to do with it in reality, cause the best player doesn't have to play for an amazing team. Suh was clearly the best player in the nation, no doubt about it, being a defensive player though, it isn't as evident because he doesn't have stats to show like rushing yards. But to dominate like he did as a DT....wow |
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Post by cliff "woo" harris on Dec 13, 2009 17:28:43 GMT -5
SEC defenses are not better... They just have sorry offenses to make them look good. truth^ |
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Post by donatello2424 on Dec 13, 2009 17:30:30 GMT -5
SEC defenses are not better... They just have sorry offenses to make them look good. truth^ Same thing I said to syro: The Pac 10 had the following breakdown of total points scored: 3 at 30 or more 6 at 20 or more 1 at 10+ SEC had: 6 at 30 or more 5 at 20 or more 1 at 15+ |
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Post by cliff "woo" harris on Dec 13, 2009 19:54:16 GMT -5
Same thing I said to syro: The Pac 10 had the following breakdown of total points scored: 3 at 30 or more 6 at 20 or more 1 at 10+ SEC had: 6 at 30 or more 5 at 20 or more 1 at 15+ What's that statistic even mean? We know Florida can put up 60 to charleston southern. I don't give a shit about those stats. Oregon has put up 40+ in 7 of their 9 pac-10 games. One game they only put up 37, and the other they only put up 24 (and thats a game when Masoli didn't play at all). lol SEC doesn't have offense minus Florida and maybe Alabama (this year). |
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Post by Jahallstar on Dec 31, 2009 15:17:23 GMT -5
Mountain West 4-0 in bowl games. Not a legit conference still? I think they were underdogs in all 4 games....
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