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Post by cliff "woo" harris on Feb 9, 2010 16:38:06 GMT -5
If you had selected Sene or Noel instead of Boone, I definitely would have. when you are owed a first, you don't get to pick who you get. You're not even owed one this year so i don't know how those players are relevant. You are owed one by '08..Sene is not even available to you, period... My point is to show that owed picks still have value. There are plenty of solid players selected in a likely owed pick range that I'd take over a +4 upgrade. I don't understand why you have such a hard time comprehending this. Especially in the 2008 draft. I'd RATHER have a 2008 owed first than a +4 upgrade. If you have a pick in that year, I'll take it and you can have whatever upgrade I receive. OK how about that?
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Post by princemaharajah on Feb 9, 2010 16:41:27 GMT -5
Ducky, what was the lowest pick owed pick you've seen that was traded in this league?
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Post by cliff "woo" harris on Feb 9, 2010 16:43:15 GMT -5
Ducky, what was the lowest pick owed pick you've seen that was traded in this league? I've seen #29s before, why? But just saying, they definitely range from early 20s to late 20s. So sure, some owed picks are probably more deserving of a +2 upgrade. However, there are also some owed picks deserving of a +5 or +6 upgrade. That's why I believe a +4 upgrade is a fair compensation.
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Post by Contract Year on Feb 9, 2010 16:47:00 GMT -5
I think even +1 is pushing it. Owed picks are merely an agreement between GMs and not something that Ashes holds a GM accountable for. When you make a deal for an owed pick, there is always a chance that you will not receive it. You don't need any compensation in that case, though I'd agree with +1 to prevent the crying. This is why I turn down any offer that involves an owed pick.
Fuck outta here with +4s and 5s lol...
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Post by princemaharajah on Feb 9, 2010 16:49:59 GMT -5
No it isn't. 1) because the team that owes the first isn't losing anything when he is supposed to. If you think that highly of first round picks at the end then they should be losing something.
2) You brought in one draft as proof, enough empirical evidence exists that most late first rounders are at best role players. The players you named in this draft some have equal ratings to players that went unsigned this past free agency.
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Post by csdude07 on Feb 9, 2010 17:14:59 GMT -5
cool, thee are messy anyways. Glad they will not be an option anymore. LOL at punishing the teams who owe 1sts.
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Post by shaunkol on Feb 9, 2010 17:37:31 GMT -5
gtfo to all you morons who think late 1sts are worth nothing. plus 1??? lol are you fuckin kidding me. that's the equivalent of a 1 sentence article that could take me 2 minutes to write
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Post by shaunkol on Feb 9, 2010 17:38:19 GMT -5
and I have no dog in the fight here. I owe as many as im owed.
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Post by Spurs GM on Feb 9, 2010 17:40:48 GMT -5
I think even +1 is pushing it. Owed picks are merely an agreement between GMs and not something that Ashes holds a GM accountable for. When you make a deal for an owed pick, there is always a chance that you will not receive it. You don't need any compensation in that case, though I'd agree with +1 to prevent the crying. This is why I turn down any offer that involves an owed pick. Fuck outta here with +4s and 5s lol... Preach. 100% Truth....Ashes should't give anything IMO. If Ashes compensate the GM's for their owed picks he should do it like IT but make it between 0-3
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Post by Spencer on Feb 9, 2010 18:28:15 GMT -5
I think this situation should end civilization as we know it.
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Post by cliff "woo" harris on Feb 9, 2010 20:24:16 GMT -5
I think even +1 is pushing it. Owed picks are merely an agreement between GMs and not something that Ashes holds a GM accountable for. When you make a deal for an owed pick, there is always a chance that you will not receive it. You don't need any compensation in that case, though I'd agree with +1 to prevent the crying. This is why I turn down any offer that involves an owed pick. Fuck outta here with +4s and 5s lol... Preach. 100% Truth....Ashes should't give anything IMO. If Ashes compensate the GM's for their owed picks he should do it like IT but make it between 0-3 Say the guys that don't have any owed firsts coming his way. Typical... lol
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Post by Contract Year on Feb 9, 2010 21:53:34 GMT -5
I don't trade for owed picks. Seemed like the smart thing to do
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Post by Contract Year on Feb 9, 2010 21:54:13 GMT -5
gtfo to all you morons who think late 1sts are worth nothing. plus 1??? lol are you fuckin kidding me. Nope. You guys shouldn't get shit. Be happy with +1 and stop crying
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Post by Andrew on Feb 9, 2010 22:07:31 GMT -5
I don't trade for owed picks. Seemed like the smart thing to do True dat
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Post by Andrew on Feb 9, 2010 22:09:16 GMT -5
I think this situation should end civilization as we know it. lol, the sky is falling!
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