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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 13, 2010 23:18:55 GMT -5
except somebody may offer T-Will, he COULDNT risk somebody stealing T-Will on day 1, if he lost him he would be done, so that would leave him with probably around 9 or so million in cap, if he doesnt bring back Okafor and Humphries...and the West is shitty yes, but, San Antonio, Minnesota, and Houston all have to start winning next season, Marty is stacked for the future, and probably starts winning next season as well, as he has shown an interest in doing so, thats 4 teams right there so Portland, Golden State, Phoenix, San Antonio, Sacramento, Los Angeles Clippers, Houston, Minnesota as well most likely, as he seemed to want to win this season, thats 8 teams that will be looking to win next season, all of whom would probably have a better team than Perry and Peanuts...(Harden is not a good player) And how about the fact that he can still sign a max player? How about the fact that if he makes this trade, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE OFF-SEASON. Where he would get MORE value in return THAN Jay. Yes, more teams may be trying to win next season, but not all of them will have the same success. Kings can still rebuild as well as the Rockets and Spurs. Only the Kings in that list can rebuild, Rockets Spurs and Minnesota are all entering their Cy, if they try to rebuild they are screwed
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 13, 2010 23:25:13 GMT -5
And how about the fact that he can still sign a max player? How about the fact that if he makes this trade, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE OFF-SEASON. Where he would get MORE value in return THAN Jay. Yes, more teams may be trying to win next season, but not all of them will have the same success. Kings can still rebuild as well as the Rockets and Spurs. HE CANT GET MORE VALUE IN RETURN BECAUSE HIS NEXT THREE PICKS ARE WITH THREE DIFFERENT TEAMS! what part of that do you not understand, he could make the deal without a true rebuild window, and unless the other team got back one of his picks, giving him only two, while the other team has to give up something to the team holding his pick in 21, and then if he wants the third pick back, theoretically say it was me, I would have to give up 3-5 picks probably at least to get the pick from J, then, I woulda had to give up more on top of that to get the pick back from you....I would then have to give Chip back his next three picks, and something on top of that...No way in hell can I afford that, nor could J, nor could you.Chip cannot trade Perry without having some of his picks back. He WILL be lotto this year, then the next, and the one following, hell with him having nothing, he could easily have two top 3 picks, his team will be shitty as hell next season. He can try to dump Harden off on somebody, then, come offseason, use his max to try to sign players with trade value, use said players to get more picks...if He fails, his backup plan is he has his picks anyway still no biggie...in your plan if he fails in FA...he doesnt have a nice backup plan since it will be very hard to get his picks back. Your window exaggeration is as futile as a pile of sticks claiming they need to be used to build a house. Anyway, have you heard of spacing? Three different teams currently own his picks (before the trade) after this season passed. Had he made the trade in the off-season, asking Jay to give up one pick, would have been far easier and much less costly. Ray, could have been in the deal just going to Seattle instead of Atlanta and the picks you would have up (that you offered me) could have gone to Atlanta. This way, Chipper would not only have his picks back but he'd have Ray as well. Assuming Jay accepts the deal I rejected. Now Chip doesn't have to deal Perry. Not sure why people egged him on and why he fell for it. At the very worst he could have been a 9th seed in the shitty west. Instead, he wont even have the chance to tank this season since he has one of the better records in the west. He'll most likely get 30 wins at the very least without Perry.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 13, 2010 23:36:18 GMT -5
HE CANT GET MORE VALUE IN RETURN BECAUSE HIS NEXT THREE PICKS ARE WITH THREE DIFFERENT TEAMS! what part of that do you not understand, he could make the deal without a true rebuild window, and unless the other team got back one of his picks, giving him only two, while the other team has to give up something to the team holding his pick in 21, and then if he wants the third pick back, theoretically say it was me, I would have to give up 3-5 picks probably at least to get the pick from J, then, I woulda had to give up more on top of that to get the pick back from you....I would then have to give Chip back his next three picks, and something on top of that...No way in hell can I afford that, nor could J, nor could you.Chip cannot trade Perry without having some of his picks back. He WILL be lotto this year, then the next, and the one following, hell with him having nothing, he could easily have two top 3 picks, his team will be shitty as hell next season. He can try to dump Harden off on somebody, then, come offseason, use his max to try to sign players with trade value, use said players to get more picks...if He fails, his backup plan is he has his picks anyway still no biggie...in your plan if he fails in FA...he doesnt have a nice backup plan since it will be very hard to get his picks back. Your window exaggeration is as futile as a pile of sticks claiming they need to be used to build a house. Anyway, have you heard of spacing? Three different teams currently own his picks (before the trade) after this season passed. Had he made the trade in the off-season, asking Jay to give up one pick, would have been far easier and much less costly. Ray, could have been in the deal just going to Seattle instead of Atlanta and the picks you would have up (that you offered me) could have gone to Atlanta. This way, Chipper would not only have his picks back but he'd have Ray as well. Assuming Jay accepts the deal I rejected. Now Chip doesn't have to deal Perry. Not sure why people egged him on and why he fell for it. At the very worst he could have been a 9th seed in the shitty west. Instead, he wont even have the chance to tank this season since he has one of the better records in the west. He'll most likely get 30 wins at the very least without Perry. lol uhh, yeah, J would never have accepted the three picks I offered...He Made me give up McCallum for just the two, one of which is non lotto right now
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 13, 2010 23:39:18 GMT -5
HE CANT GET MORE VALUE IN RETURN BECAUSE HIS NEXT THREE PICKS ARE WITH THREE DIFFERENT TEAMS! what part of that do you not understand, he could make the deal without a true rebuild window, and unless the other team got back one of his picks, giving him only two, while the other team has to give up something to the team holding his pick in 21, and then if he wants the third pick back, theoretically say it was me, I would have to give up 3-5 picks probably at least to get the pick from J, then, I woulda had to give up more on top of that to get the pick back from you....I would then have to give Chip back his next three picks, and something on top of that...No way in hell can I afford that, nor could J, nor could you.Chip cannot trade Perry without having some of his picks back. He WILL be lotto this year, then the next, and the one following, hell with him having nothing, he could easily have two top 3 picks, his team will be shitty as hell next season. He can try to dump Harden off on somebody, then, come offseason, use his max to try to sign players with trade value, use said players to get more picks...if He fails, his backup plan is he has his picks anyway still no biggie...in your plan if he fails in FA...he doesnt have a nice backup plan since it will be very hard to get his picks back. Your window exaggeration is as futile as a pile of sticks claiming they need to be used to build a house. Anyway, have you heard of spacing? Three different teams currently own his picks (before the trade) after this season passed. Had he made the trade in the off-season, asking Jay to give up one pick, would have been far easier and much less costly. Ray, could have been in the deal just going to Seattle instead of Atlanta and the picks you would have up (that you offered me) could have gone to Atlanta. This way, Chipper would not only have his picks back but he'd have Ray as well. Assuming Jay accepts the deal I rejected. Now Chip doesn't have to deal Perry. Not sure why people egged him on and why he fell for it. At the very worst he could have been a 9th seed in the shitty west. Instead, he wont even have the chance to tank this season since he has one of the better records in the west. He'll most likely get 30 wins at the very least without Perry. 30 wins was good for the 7th pick last year
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 13, 2010 23:39:29 GMT -5
Your window exaggeration is as futile as a pile of sticks claiming they need to be used to build a house. Anyway, have you heard of spacing? Three different teams currently own his picks (before the trade) after this season passed. Had he made the trade in the off-season, asking Jay to give up one pick, would have been far easier and much less costly. Ray, could have been in the deal just going to Seattle instead of Atlanta and the picks you would have up (that you offered me) could have gone to Atlanta. This way, Chipper would not only have his picks back but he'd have Ray as well. Assuming Jay accepts the deal I rejected. Now Chip doesn't have to deal Perry. Not sure why people egged him on and why he fell for it. At the very worst he could have been a 9th seed in the shitty west. Instead, he wont even have the chance to tank this season since he has one of the better records in the west. He'll most likely get 30 wins at the very least without Perry. lol uhh, yeah, J would never have accepted the three picks I offered...He Made me give up McCallum for just the two, one of which is non lotto right now Again, better to make the deal in the off-season where less picks are involves and possibly more players involved in the deal due to free agency. All of this with your assumption that chipper lands no one. Again, trading away Perry Jones this season was worthless...the trade should be veto'd.
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 13, 2010 23:41:07 GMT -5
Your window exaggeration is as futile as a pile of sticks claiming they need to be used to build a house. Anyway, have you heard of spacing? Three different teams currently own his picks (before the trade) after this season passed. Had he made the trade in the off-season, asking Jay to give up one pick, would have been far easier and much less costly. Ray, could have been in the deal just going to Seattle instead of Atlanta and the picks you would have up (that you offered me) could have gone to Atlanta. This way, Chipper would not only have his picks back but he'd have Ray as well. Assuming Jay accepts the deal I rejected. Now Chip doesn't have to deal Perry. Not sure why people egged him on and why he fell for it. At the very worst he could have been a 9th seed in the shitty west. Instead, he wont even have the chance to tank this season since he has one of the better records in the west. He'll most likely get 30 wins at the very least without Perry. 30 wins was good for the 7th pick last year Still not worth giving up the best player in the league for that possibility.
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Post by Trunks on Oct 13, 2010 23:42:12 GMT -5
Veto
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 13, 2010 23:47:49 GMT -5
last time I defended a trade for somebody else that involved me this hard...turned out to be a rape...and I was the one who got raped
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Post by dreamweaver on Oct 13, 2010 23:49:18 GMT -5
Good for all teams
Complicated when I first glanced at it lol
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 13, 2010 23:51:00 GMT -5
lol uhh, yeah, J would never have accepted the three picks I offered...He Made me give up McCallum for just the two, one of which is non lotto right now Again, better to make the deal in the off-season where less picks are involves and possibly more players involved in the deal due to free agency. All of this with your assumption that chipper lands no one. Again, trading away Perry Jones this season was worthless...the trade should be veto'd. Again you are making the assumption that Chip would have landed somebody...which is less likely than the chances of him landing nobody, and now, he doesnt have to land somebody to survive
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 13, 2010 23:51:48 GMT -5
last time I defended a trade for somebody else that involved me this hard...turned out to be a rape...and I was the one who got raped Awwww, should we be more sympathetic to the rapist?
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 13, 2010 23:54:08 GMT -5
Again, better to make the deal in the off-season where less picks are involves and possibly more players involved in the deal due to free agency. All of this with your assumption that chipper lands no one. Again, trading away Perry Jones this season was worthless...the trade should be veto'd. Again you are making the assumption that Chip would have landed somebody...which is less likely than the chances of him landing nobody, and now, he doesnt have to land somebody to survive And you're making the assumption that Chip would land NO ONE. Even if he didn't land anyone, he still is the 9th seed AT WORST.
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Post by TheNorth on Oct 13, 2010 23:55:15 GMT -5
Broph and Prince could have each wrote an article rather than having a worthless debate.
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Post by princemaharajah on Oct 13, 2010 23:56:43 GMT -5
Broph and Prince could have each wrote an article rather than having a worthless debate. This is far easier.
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Post by Brophdog88 on Oct 13, 2010 23:58:04 GMT -5
Again you are making the assumption that Chip would have landed somebody...which is less likely than the chances of him landing nobody, and now, he doesnt have to land somebody to survive And you're making the assumption that Chip would land NO ONE. Even if he didn't land anyone, he still is the 9th seed AT WORST. Harden sucks, he could probably bring back T-Will but, if Meka retires he would be screwed, then he would have to rely on the MLE, LLE and Vet MIN to pick himself up a PG, C, and an entire bench, I doubt highly that AT worst he would be a 9th best team...and even then with how the East has been that could be good for the 8th or 9th pick
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